Minutes, IBIS Quality Task Group 05 June 2018 11:00-12:00 EST (08:00-09:00 PST) ROLL CALL eASIC: David Banas Ericsson: Anders Ekholm Intel: Michael Mirmak Eugene Lim IO Methodology: * Lance Wang Mentor, a Siemens Business Arpad Muranyi Signal Integrity Software: * Mike LaBonte Teraspeed Labs: * Bob Ross Visteon: Preetesh Rathod Everyone in attendance marked by * NOTE: "AR" = Action Required. -----------------------MINUTES --------------------------- Mike LaBonte conducted the meeting. Call for IBIS related patent disclosures: - None Call for opens: - None Review of previous meeting minutes: - Mike: It was recorded that Lance moved to approve Apr 24 minutes, and Bob Ross seconded. That was a cut and paste error. The correction is that Bob Ross moved to approve the minutes and Mike LaBonte seconded. - Bob Ross moved to approve the May 15 minutes with correction as noted. Lance Wang seconded. Without objection the minutes were approved. ARs: - Mike LaBonte to complete BIRD appendix for parser contract. - No progress, only BIRDs 189.x and 194 remains. IBISCHK7 parser development: - Bob: There may be syntax issues regarding BIRD 194/158.7. - The Reserved_Parameters Tx_V, Tx_R, Rx_R might require must/must not be present checks. - Mike: Only Tx_V is required by the BIRD. - That requirement should be for Tx only, but it doesn't say that. - Bob: We would have to follow the rules for determining Tx/Rx. - IBIS has a table of Reserved_Parameters Tx/Rx mappings. - Mike: It is not certain that ibischk6 has the ability to determine that. - It could assume that any Tx-only parameter means it is a Tx. - Mike showed the IBIS 6.1 AMI Defined Direction table 38. - Mike: Model_type establishes what can be Tx/Rx. - When ibischk6 -ami is used, that information is absent, so that kind of checking can't be done. - Does ibischk6 apply the additional checking when checking AMI from a .ibs file ? - Bob: Table 39 seems to allow an I/O to have only one DLL. - Mike: We decided that a single DLL could do both. - Bob: Having Tx_V and/or Tx_R AND Rx_R would be a contradiction. - Mike: Agree. - We could ask Atul two questions: - Does ibischk6 ever know if an AMI file is absolutely Tx and/or absolutely Rx? - Does it apply additional checks on .ami files called from .ibs vs. standalone -ami? - Bob: I think some of those checks are done. AR: Bob Ross to determine extent of ibischk6 AMI Tx/Rx checks. New IBISCHK bugs: - Bob: I haven't yet determined whether to submit BUG197. - We might need a BIRD instead. - Lance: Both problem should be error messages, but it would be OK for one to be a warning. - Bob: It was a pathological case. - Bob Ross moved to adjourn. Lance Wang seconded. - The meeting ended without objection. Meeting ended: 11:59 ET Next meeting June 12, 2018